Ep. 2 The REAL Meaning of Success in Business

We’re back with our second episode of The Slow Circle! Join us as we talk about redefining what success in business means and how aligning success with your values can create a more fulfilling and impactful journey.

From shifting mindsets and building confidence to embracing failure and overcoming fear, we chat about the importance of staying true to your integrity, the power of surrounding yourself with the right people and how our environments can shape our paths.

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Hi, I'm Amy and this is Abi. Hi! We are serial entrepreneurs, joint co-founders, sisters and

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friends. We've scaled and sold multiple businesses over the years, but we've also

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learned there's a lot more to business than profit. We've had a real awakening over the last

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Hello! Hi! Welcome! Welcome everybody to another episode of The Slow Circle.

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Today we're going to be talking about success, what it means, and redefining success in business,

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which is GC GC. Yes. I feel like we talk about it so much. It comes up in nearly every conversation

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we have with other business owners. It comes up all the time. And I think it's a really important

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topic for business owners and people in business too. Yeah, it just feels like a really important

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conversation to have and to open up and for other people to go away into question. Yeah, well that's

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it. Well, if we're coming back to this concept of slow business and that being a deliberate,

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conscious step-by-step journey, then everything, right? Like what's the end goal? Yeah.

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You're just literally setting out in your car without putting a destination into the satnav.

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Yeah, getting straight on... Yeah, I love that.

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That's beautiful. Figure out what the destination is and then how do we get there?

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So, I guess to start with, maybe we should just say, what does success mean to you?

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Or do you first want to say, what do you think success means to most people or what do people think

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success means? Yeah, I suppose mainstream traditional models of success are growth and profit,

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right? But I mean, it's something that's always really interesting because I feel like people always say,

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oh yeah, would you say your business is successful or I mean, I can't remember how people

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phrase it, but it's always like, is your business a success? Like, and I'm always confused by that.

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Yeah, because I'm like, can you be a bit more specific?

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Right, like, what do you want to know? Because how do you measure success? And how do I measure success?

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And those two might be completely different. So how do I answer that question? I guess you answer it

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from your heart, whether you think it's successful, but yeah, you also, you could be having

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a conversation with someone and you're both having a completely different conversation.

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Right, because immediately when I think of success, like my version of success, I go to the impact

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it has, like what I'm doing with a business I have, like what impact does it have? Yeah, if it's having

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an incredible impact and helping people and like, that to me is success, but is that linked to profit?

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I mean, I guess you need income to be able to exist as a business and then invest into other

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endeavors that can have a further impact. Yeah, but I don't see it as profit as in

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lining my pocket, which I think is the traditional version. Yeah, yeah, definitely.

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I think there's just, there's just so many ways to think about success. I mean, is it the number of people

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you employ? Right. Is it the, is it the size of your operation? Is it the amount of SKUs that you have?

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Is it like, you can, yeah, is it your followers on Instagram? Right, right, yeah, where was actually,

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you know, I would personally so much rather have a smaller amount of followers and have them be

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like completely authentic and engaged. Engaged, yeah, people that actually want to talk to you and

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yeah, I think when you apply these like big business principles or what would you say,

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vanity metrics down to real life? Like, yeah, like if you actually applied that to you, oh, I've got

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a hundred thousand friends, but I know, none of them talk to me. I don't care. I'm actually,

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none of them care how, yeah, I think you'd much rather have a small pool of friends that really

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support you and yeah, so that's a kind of interesting way to look at it. But, yeah, I guess,

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thinking about business and success, I think something that's interesting is always to consider

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privilege. Yes. And our backgrounds and it's something that I always try to come back to.

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Yeah. And I think there's a lot of, like people say, oh, yeah, well, I don't know, people kind of

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like to say, well, of course, you're successful because you have this, you know, you've had success before.

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You've had success before or it would be another story of like, yeah, well, your parents were successful.

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So of course, you were going to be successful or whatever. And I felt like that's a really

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interesting topic and what is it? Like, is there any truth in that? Do you know,

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it's funny that you bring it up. So I've been thinking about this recently, I've had that a few

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times when people go, well, we just live in different worlds. Yeah. And I'm like, what? Like, that doesn't,

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maybe we do, but maybe we don’t, but yeah, what's interesting to me is that,

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I mean, Dan and I, my husband, we were talking about this yesterday. And we were saying,

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if we went back 10 years, 10 years ago, we weren't even pregnant with our first child. It was coming

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soon in a couple of months, but we weren't yet. And we were a nurse and a policeman. We never

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saw each other. We were working opposite shifts. We weren't that healthy, we hadn't had an

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awakening around food. I mean, we ate lots of vegetables and that was what we thought was healthy. Yeah.

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But we lived in a two and a half bed house. We were so happy with what we had. And we

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were so grateful for what we had. But there is no way that I would have looked forward 10 years.

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If someone had said to me, what will your life look like in 10 years? And I would have gone, you're

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going to live more in the countryside in a really beautiful, bigger old house that you've decorated

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in this amazing, non-toxic way. And you'll have built your own businesses and

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sold your own businesses. And you'll have three beautiful children that

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you homeschool and you'll love every moment of it and you'll have travelled,

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had incredible opportunities, I would never, I would have been like, get out of here.

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There is no way that's going to be my life in 10 years. Yeah. And I find that so interesting

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because it's like, what, what was it that made the difference? Like, do you know, I, I have a theory.

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I think it was what you said about that you were happy with what you had as well. I think

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there can be a limiting way of, I'm happy with what I have and then you stay there. But if you're

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happy and open, you're always open to more, but you're not in that kind of negative, like, I don't

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deserve any more mindset. Yeah. No, I left that. And I actually really believe that because I

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believe that if you align with that mentality and mindset of abundance, abundance, again,

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definitions, right? Yeah. To me, abundance means appreciating the abundance in everything we have.

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And we're so lucky, actually, living in the UK in a country that has seasons and that is so abundant

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in your life in so many ways in nature. Like, yeah, we complain about the rain, but if it wasn't for

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the rain, it wouldn't be as luscious here, you know? And it's, there's so much around us that you

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can't possibly go for a walk in nature for an hour and not align yourself with that notion of

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abundance and see it and appreciate it. And then I do really believe that it's the law of attraction,

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right? If you believe you're a abundant and you have all of this, you have this amazing life,

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then you'll get more of it. You get more of it. Yeah. You keep getting more. Yeah. So, yeah,

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no, I get that. I believe it, but I never looked back and applied it to myself in that way. And I think,

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well, thinking about privilege, but also about success, I think, you know, we've kind of touched on how

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success doesn't always mean money and success means more than money and it means, yeah, I mean,

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we didn't exercise the other week, right? Well, we kind of sat in our circle, we all just saw,

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like, how do we feel? Like, what does success feel to us? And I think the feeling that came up,

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the words that kept coming up were calm and content and what were the other words?

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Freedom. Freedom. Peace. Peace. Like, it was not luxury or, it wasn't money. It was just a sense of,

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like, calmness. And I think, yeah, the same way that success doesn't necessarily always mean money,

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I think the same with privilege. And I think that I certainly think that, whilst I might not have

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had a privileged upbringing, yeah, financially. And I mean, I definitely didn't, like, grow up in

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a council house in the roughest part of Northampton, definitely not financially privileged,

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although living in the UK, we are still privileged, you know, of course, we are, but in our society

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was not, I still think that I had a great amount of privilege in the love and support that I had

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from my family. Yeah. And I think that has made all the difference to me and my outlook on life.

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And I do recognise that privilege because I definitely feel that, well, my mum and dad,

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they weren't older, but they had had my sisters, like, nine years before they had me when they were

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really young. So by the time they had me, they'd figured things out, they were, like, ready to have

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a baby. And then I also had these two sisters at nine and eight years older than me that just

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loved me and were obsessed with me. And like, that's so nice. I feel that privilege of having that,

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kind of, network of people around you that just make you feel loved and trusted. Yeah.

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I do think that's, to me, why people would say that I am the successful type of person that I am,

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and the people would say I'm happy, go lucky or whatever, and I don't think it's luck. But I think

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it's that I've got that confidence in me, right? Trust. That always felt worthy.

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Always felt worthy. Yeah. So then, yeah, if something goes my way, it's not, what? It's like,

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yeah, I deserve that. Or like, because that's power I've, you know, been kind of brought up. So I do think,

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yeah, the same, we've had success. It's important to kind of recognise that privilege, I suppose. But

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then also, I think that's really quite powerful because that means that people always think like

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money is fact and love is like a feeling or whatever. But actually, if I'm coming from a

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situation where I didn't have money, but I had love. Yeah. And then that has been the way that I

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have made myself successful. Yeah. That's quite powerful because you realise that anyone that

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comes from, you know, even if you come from nothing, even if you don't have any money,

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you do have the ability to be successful. But maybe you don't have the same privilege that you've

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had the same amount of love. I recognise that I have that. But there is a way that you can tap into

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that right and build your own trust and your own confidence and your own love, self love. Yeah. I mean,

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Marisa Pia, you know, she talks about it a lot, doesn't she? Like, I am enough is the name of her book,

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where she encourages people to retrain their, like, their psyches, basically, their subconscious

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to believe that they are lovable and worthy and enough, just as they are. And there are, you know,

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we all have our baggage, you know, whether that's feelings of unworthiness or, you know, everybody's

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got something at some point that we've worked through. But I feel like if you can recognise yourself

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as a resource, you know, that is really freeing. And there's that saying, isn't there? Your own

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limitation in life is you. Yeah. Like a lot of people go, well, how did you go from nursing to,

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running businesses and making, designing children's sustainable clothing? I have

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no background in fashion, I've always enjoyed clothes and I've, you know, was exposed to, my mum,

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sews a lot, and her mum used to make dresses for famous people, so I know what a pattern is,

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and I know how to use a sewing machine, but I never thought that that was where I was going to

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go. Yeah. And I don't have any technical training. But, actually, I feel like that was in many ways a

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gift. Yeah. Because I then went in and you remember, we were questioning everything.

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Just questioning it, yeah, and you don't like, just do things. But why does it have to be like that?

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Don't just do things the way that everyone else does it, but also if you do things the way that

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everyone else does it, then you're only going to get the results that everyone else has got. Yeah.

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Yeah, totally. So people are like, how did you, like, yeah, how did you go further with that? How did

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you, and it's like, well, we did things differently, you're, yeah. And people would say, well, how did you,

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not only, how did you succeed in it, but how did you succeed in it with no background in it?

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Yeah. And then I actually think that helped. Yeah. Because as soon as we realized our only

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limitation in life is us, like, well, then we just need to get out of our own way. We just need to be

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okay to ask the questions. And a lot of people, I think, were so affected by other people's ideas of

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success. Yeah. That when someone says, well, this is the way it's done, we go, oh, okay. Yeah.

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And you obviously know better than me. Yeah. I'm not worthy of knowing this information. Exactly. Exactly.

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When you get out of your own way, you're comfortable to then say, yeah, but why? Yeah, but why? Actually,

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I want to try it this way anyway, or this is how I feel is in my bones, I feel like this is the right

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thing to do. So I'm going to do it. Yeah. And yeah, I think there's so much more strength in that,

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right? Because also if you do, if you follow someone else's path, then you're still, I think they're

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still that doubt within you if it doesn't feel right to you. Yeah. And you don't give it the full, I know,

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attention. Yeah. Well, we were talking before we started this and saying, like, you know,

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there's so many people that get up at five o'clock and have their routines and it's like three or

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four hours before they start their day. And yeah, amazing. Like if you've got four hours to spend

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and it gets you into that place that you feel good in, yeah, do it. But there has to be

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another way. I don't have four hours in the morning, I've got three small children and, you

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know, run a business and whatever. And so there has to be another way. And I think even just 

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spending a few minutes every day, checking in with your inner self and recognizing,

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am I operating within that? Yeah. Like am I holding true to my idea of integrity and my core values?

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And like really aligning yourself at the beginning of the day with those and then using that as your

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place to operate from throughout that day, then you can't be anything other than the best version

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of yourself. Right. You know? Yeah. Yeah. I love that. Yeah. I think it's, um, it's also then your

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sense of integrity. And don't get me wrong. You, you will be, um, unsettled sometimes by other people

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who quiz you on whether you're a success. Yeah. Or bring your integrity into question. You know,

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I was saying to you last week, I've had more people question my integrity in the time in which

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I have held the strongest and truest to my integrity that I've never before. Yeah. And I find that

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so interesting because actually, it's not about me. No, it brings up other people's stuff. Yeah.

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It me holding true to my integrity and being absolutely unwilling to waver from that is jarring for

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other people. Yeah. I think it unsettles people. I don't know if it's like, yeah, it brings something

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up for them. I'm like, whoa, that person really knows what they want. And I think other people can

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find that uncomfortable for sure. Right. Especially if it doesn't match what they think success means.

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Yeah. Yeah. And I think that happens. I mean, we've had so many conversations with people where

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they've like been quizzed like he say, where someone's going, well, are you making money here or

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are you doing that then? Oh, so what's happening next? And I don't know. And then I think people do

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fall into this. Oh, well, I've got to say, yeah, it's all great. Thanks. Oh, yeah. Yeah, this is working.

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Yeah. And why? I suppose it's putting that pressure on you, but also why have we not got this?

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I don't know, kind of community feel where we can be a bit more open and real about things that

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are going on. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I think I suppose it comes back to that

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like fear of judgment or fear of like what? But it's true though, if you, if you're holding

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true to your idea of success, it doesn't really matter what anybody else does. There's no

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things. But it's hard to remember that when you're in it and when someone is suddenly quizzing you

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about like whether your business is a success. Yeah. I think as well, like, yeah, there's that fear of

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fear of failure, but also failure is what you make of it, right? Like I was thinking about one of my

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business that I had like eight years ago and I've never ever once thought that I failed at that

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business or it was a failure. But like the other day I thought about it and was like,

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would someone else say that as a failure story? And maybe they would, but I just don't see it that way.

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At all. Like it really like just led on to so many opportunities and then from that I was, I learned

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so much that I've then landed in something else that that then led to something else and yeah,

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I just, I've never ever once thought I failed at that or I wasn't good enough. But then

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I questioned that so much because I think if that would have been my chosen story,

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well I failed at that business, then would anything else have happened? No. Because you probably

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said, well, I don't, I can't do that. I can't do that. Yeah, well, I'm not worthy. But actually my

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story like, I remember going into a meeting with someone and I literally, yeah, it was a business

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on my own that I had created and perhaps people wouldn't say that it was successful, but I felt

00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:16,320
like it was and I felt like I was seeing, you know, great things and great success. And I remember

00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:21,040
going into a bit into a meeting with a guy that had his own business and just being like, yeah,

00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:26,400
I can do this. Do you want my help? Like, I know how to do this. Look, and being really positive and

00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:32,480
confident with my own skills and ability to help him. Yeah. And that then led on to work there,

00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:37,920
which led on to something else. But I just think if I was caught up in there, oh, nothing's good enough,

00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:44,320
mindset or I'm failing, then that, no, that first opportunity wouldn't have even been there. Yeah.

00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:49,920
But I don't know how you kind of switch that on because I know and we talk to people all the time

00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:56,160
when they're in that headspace of like, I'm failing or things aren't going the way that I want it to go,

00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:02,560
like, yeah, I don't know the answer to how you switch on the accepting saying it's in you. Right.

00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:09,200
Right. Like how, yeah, I don't know that either because it's almost like, it's like with

00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:15,680
dire, right? You can't talk to somebody who eats really unhealthy, like annex and just explain it

00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:21,120
to them and expect them to get it like in that moment. It's a journey we're all on. And we all have our

00:21:21,120 --> 00:21:26,560
different points of awakening and our different levels of awakening as well. And it's like, how do you

00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:31,920
hold space for that and support that in others when you do the work that we do without like

00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:39,520
projecting or imprinting on them? Yeah. But yeah, at the same time, not enabling them. Yeah,

00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:44,560
it is really, yeah, you have to tread carefully, don't you? But also, you know, if you go to hard

00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:49,120
with anything, people roll their eyes. If you say, if someone saying I'm having a hard time,

00:21:49,120 --> 00:21:54,720
sales aren't coming, businesses aren't going well and you go, it's all inside you, that's okay,

00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:59,520
thanks. And they'll walk away. Right. And I get it on the outside. Thanks for your help. That one

00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:05,440
sentence doesn't really help things. No, I truly believe that it is. Like, I'm not saying,

00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:11,520
just change your mind, and then change your mindset. And then you will start doing things

00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:16,480
differently. You'll start operating differently. You'll be like, Oh, I am worthy. Do you know

00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:20,160
that person I'm meant to be? I've meant to email them for like six months, but I've been putting it

00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,280
off because I don't feel that I'm worthy. I'm going to email them. Yeah. And then that person,

00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:27,040
why would they possibly want to hear from me? Yeah, actually, you know, then, and then you get

00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:32,160
a reply and you're like, Oh, I am worthy. Every little bit you get, you get more confidence.

00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:37,280
Yeah. And then you can do more and it just kind of snowballs from there. Well, I was thinking

00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:47,040
about you just talking about, like, not seeing it as a failure. And, you know, I really love that

00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:55,120
because how do you know what works if you don't know what hasn't worked? And it's not a case of failure,

00:22:55,120 --> 00:23:00,640
or like, I wouldn't even use that word. It's a case of like a journey and learning and like,

00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:05,760
like, how do you figure out the winning for you? Yeah. If you don't try, I'll never

00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,680
throw a little bit. Like, if you never take action until you know you've got the perfect form,

00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:14,800
you're never going to take any action. Yeah. So it's about being okay with that.

00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:20,080
And yeah, like, perhaps there were these underlying feelings of unworthiness,

00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:27,520
which have a bigger role to play. But there are also things that you can work through, you know?

00:23:29,360 --> 00:23:37,600
So yeah, I really like, like, thinking of it as, and they say, like, behind every successful entrepreneur,

00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:46,400
there, there is a trail of failed businesses or... Yeah, yeah, but I think like you said there about

00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:52,400
being a journey, I think that's really interesting because if, um, like, let's say you have a business

00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:57,520
and it goes up and down from being profitable to failing and then like, where, at what point?

00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,560
Like, I thought that you'd look back and be like, I failed, but you wouldn't look back and go,

00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:08,240
I succeeded and then it failed. You know? You would be like, you always end on the, I failed that,

00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:13,440
that, even if it leads to another, like, and it's always an ongoing thing, right? You can say,

00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:19,440
are you successful? I was successful. Like, do you lose it? I was successful, but I'm not anymore.

00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,760
Well, no, you've still had the same successes that you had. Exactly. Why are you now like,

00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:31,760
what is it that you've lost? Right, and I think that like, again, comes back to the core values and

00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:37,360
integrity and soul alignment, like, what's your purpose? What's the essential truth of who you are

00:24:37,360 --> 00:24:47,200
and what you want to do? And I think, um, like, you do have to play with that a little bit. Like,

00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:54,320
you do have to sit with that and it's okay. I don't see it as failure to tune in with what,

00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:59,760
where you're currently at and recognise that's not the version of yourself you want to be. Yeah.

00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:05,920
Any more and make a change. Yeah. Like, hold on, like, that is not failure. That's great. That's

00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:12,320
the biggest success. Like, you're living in the greatest alignment to who you were meant to be

00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:17,760
from the beginning. Like, there is no better success than that. Yeah. You know? Yeah. I know. I

00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:26,480
feel that we always, like, that always fascinates me. The idea of, yes, you've made, you're made up of

00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:34,800
all your past mistakes and stories. But you still now can change it. Right. And it's about

00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:40,000
recognising that your present reality is not your future reality. No. Your present reality is the

00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:45,360
culmination of everything in your past. Yeah. That has equaled to right now. Right now. Yeah. But if you

00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:49,840
want your future to look different, then right now start doing something different. Start doing

00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:54,720
the thing that leads to right is that you want rather than what you have and perhaps you're not happy

00:25:54,720 --> 00:26:00,080
with because, yeah, the more you keep doing the same things, the more things aren't going to change,

00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:12,480
right? Yeah. I think, yeah, following on from that, someone asked us recently, you know, is it

00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:21,360
easier to see things this way when you've already had success? Yeah. And I mean, I think it's kind of

00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:28,720
the same as like what I was saying about I recognise my privilege in having a loving upbringing,

00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:35,120
right? Yeah. I think it is easier to trust people when no one's ever hurt you. Yeah. Of course it is.

00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:41,760
But it still is in you. Yeah. Yeah. It's still, yeah. You will believe, right? And I don't know,

00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:47,040
but I think you just have the confidence in your confidence in yourself, like I was talking to

00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:53,600
Matt about this, my husband the other day, like something that we think is impossible because

00:26:53,600 --> 00:27:01,120
perhaps it's beyond something that we've reached. But we might have that belief, but then other people

00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:05,680
might believe our reality is impossible. Like actually, no people that have been like, there's no way

00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:10,560
that you've bought that flat or you've done that or like that's impossible. Like how have you made

00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:15,360
that money or how have you done those things? Like people think it's impossible, but because it's been

00:27:15,360 --> 00:27:21,280
part of our reality that we've made happen, we're like, no, it's not impossible. But then we've still

00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:26,160
got a lid on where we think, do you know what I mean? How can you keep, you're always living into

00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:32,320
your minimum standards? Yeah. But how can you recognise that other people think that your reality is

00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:38,240
impossible? And then not also recognise that your belief of what's impossible is impossible.

00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:45,520
Just elevate, keep elevating. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I think that that's that is really interesting

00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:57,760
to explore it in that way. And you know, I've not, I definitely have like trauma in my past from

00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:05,840
like trust, you know, I got horrendously bullied at school like horrendously by my friends at the time.

00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:14,400
So it was really, you know, damaging. Yeah. And when I was like 14, 13, 14, so is that that really

00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:27,200
awkward age, you know, important? Yeah. And you know, you can decide to let that stop you trusting people.

00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:35,840
Yeah. Or you can decide not to. And either way, you probably will still

00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:46,640
get hurt at some point. But I think like who wants to live like that? You know, I would so much

00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:54,800
rather live with an open trusting heart knowing that, yeah, I might get hurt at some point. But you

00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,080
there might also be loads of good things. But there's loads of good things that come with it like

00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:06,800
my way of coping at the time was to create like a bubble around me that separated me

00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:13,120
from getting too close to other people who could then hurt me. Yeah. And what does that equal?

00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:18,080
Like who do I then have? Yeah. You know, I think it's an interesting point though because

00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:23,680
like they, I've heard, we keep saying they said and who they are, but they're, they're,

00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:28,880
there is like the saying of you and I'm going back to money when I don't mean to just talk about

00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:37,200
money, but like you usually, they say you make on average what the five people you spend the most

00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:41,600
time with, this, that you make the average of what the five people spend the most time with,

00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:47,360
earn. And like that always blows my mind. I'm like, because it's what, what the standards are right

00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:53,360
around you and you kind of, about so interesting because I've heard that you are the result of the

00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:58,160
five people you spend most time with. I've not heard that the finances, yeah. Like they say if you look at

00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:03,680
your salary or, yeah, what you make per year and then you look at the five people around you and you'd

00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:10,080
yeah, make the work out of the average. It's usually you're, you're in that. And I like, yeah,

00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:14,560
not for it to just be about money, but I think that, just think about that in life. Like the who are

00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:20,800
the five people that you spend the most time with and are they out of choice? Or are there anyone in

00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:30,720
there that perhaps isn't helping with that? Yeah, yeah. Well, you know, I've listened to countless

00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:41,120
meditations, visualizations, activations, whatever, like all of, all of those things. And every single

00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:47,440
person, like every interview I listen to from like people who have succeeded, I'm doing in

00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:54,000
verb comments, everyone that can't see me. But everybody says the same thing, like be careful who

00:30:54,000 --> 00:31:02,960
you surround yourself with. And there is an element of me, like to, to be completely frank, that really

00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:08,480
kind of struggles with that because I'm like, what you want me to get rid of people in my life who

00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:14,640
don't serve a purpose. And I find that really hard. Like, you know, most of my friends we were

00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,800
talking about this earlier are like old friends. Yeah. People I've been friends with for years. And

00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:24,800
there's no way I'm going to not be friends with them anymore. But I heard an interview, I can't

00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:32,080
remember the name of the guy, but he lives in the US. And he was saying that he calls these people

00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:38,400
valueless friends because they don't add any value to your life, but the value system that you

00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:45,360
appreciate them under is completely different. And so they don't count. He was like, I let them all.

00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:49,680
Right, I can be with them and there's no agenda. They've got no hidden agenda with me. I've got no

00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:55,360
hidden agenda. So it doesn't matter. The energy exchange is different, but it's about the new people

00:31:55,360 --> 00:32:01,200
that you have mint and come across and have in your life and welcome into your life. Like that energy

00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:08,160
exchange is different. And for sure you'll end up being a result of those people that you're surrounding yourself with.

00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:19,040
Being careful then with, because also in that same conversation, they said that the energy of the

00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:25,840
group, any group, any community that you're in will always align with the lowest vibrational match.

00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:33,040
Wow. So you want to like, you can't let like one person off even though they moan about everything.

00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:37,200
Yeah, you will all align with that energy. Oh, I've definitely felt that before in my life.

00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:42,240
Yeah, it's so interesting when people like that. And then when then they've left the group and they're

00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:47,040
not there anymore, all of a sudden you realize that everyone is like at a high, really high, like

00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:54,080
the bounce is back up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's really interesting. But I guess the point that I'm making

00:32:54,080 --> 00:33:03,760
is that every single spiritual guide or like, manifestation guru or whatever everyone says the

00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:09,600
same thing, like as soon as they figured out the community of people that they had around them,

00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:14,800
it’s like things started sorting into place immediately. It's interesting to think about that

00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:22,560
in terms of business. And if you've got a team, right? Yes. And I suppose we're in kind of a

00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:28,400
unique position as we've been in teams where we've hired people. But then there are lots of people

00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:33,680
that workplaces. They don't have the responsibility of who else is hired next to them or who else is

00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:39,200
already there. And I think that is a real, I think who you work with, who you spend your time with,

00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:46,000
like we just said, it can be, it can make a break here, right? It can be, I know so many people

00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:52,720
that have just been completely destroyed by their work environment and it comes down to the people

00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:58,480
that they're spending their time with. Yeah. But like how, I don't know, how do you,

00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:04,720
how do you remain like, keep some of that control when you actually don't have, you can't always have

00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:09,520
the, all of the control, right? Right. Well, first of all, I would say like, are you in the right place?

00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:15,360
Yeah. I think that's the big question. Because quite often you don't align with those people

00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:21,040
and you're not having a good time because you're not in the right place. So that's like the first

00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,960
wrong because, how would you just go into that a bit deeper? If it was the right place,

00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:32,160
the right people would be like, yeah, it's like a matter of attraction. Yeah. If there's a real true,

00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:39,520
like, their souls to business is almost like, yeah, there's like, it will attract the right people.

00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:45,200
So is it that you're actually not the right person to be there? And that person is perfect there.

00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:50,640
Exactly. Because that's the thing, right? It's not just about like, draw people to me,

00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:56,160
but like, who are you drawn to? You might be the wrong person for that situation. It doesn't make

00:34:56,160 --> 00:35:00,640
you a bad person or a wrong person in general, but you're not the right person in the right seat,

00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:07,760
you know? And I think like that is we talk to businesses all the time, like businesses that

00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:14,160
perhaps like set up a few years ago and got busy or like, but never stopped or had the opportunity

00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:19,920
to stop and assess like, who they were, where they're coming from, what they're trying to achieve,

00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:28,960
and like, what is the central truth of who they are? And so often we work through this with people

00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:34,240
and then once they've got it, they literally, they're like lit up like a beacon and all these amazing

00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:41,120
people start coming to them, like a moth to a flame. And it's the importance, I think, of living,

00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:48,240
living, like living breathing within your integrity and your seat of who you are and what you're

00:35:48,240 --> 00:35:56,160
contributing. Yeah, I know exactly what you mean, and I've seen it and like you say, it's like people

00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:01,200
light up, but it's not just within themselves, it's almost like they're in this big room that the

00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:05,440
lights have been off and then you turn it on and they can see where everything is. Yeah. Like, it just

00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:12,160
makes everything clearer. Yeah. But I also wonder like, how do can you be successful, can your business

00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:19,600
be successful if you don't do those things? Because there are businesses out there. But again,

00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:25,840
what are you talking about? Success. Like, yes, you could be in a very traditional patriarchal

00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:31,440
business model that has huge growth and huge profit, but like, what's your life quality? Everyone's

00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:36,880
miserable. Everyone is miserable. Everybody's stressed. Like, there's one guy at the top calling

00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:43,440
the shots and everybody else is a pawn in the game. Like, you know, it's, do you want that? Yeah,

00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:49,600
do you want that? You know, is that alignment with like your central truth and who you are and

00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:55,120
what you want to do? And I guess that is the second part of when you say, like, is it possible when

00:36:55,120 --> 00:37:01,600
you're not in control of hiring those people to be happy in that place? If the answer after you

00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:05,440
ask yourself is whether you're in the right place and you are, like, you really want to be there,

00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:14,080
then I guess, like, do the inner work, like, keep every morning coming back to that place of alignment

00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:24,880
and integrity. And like, then I think it's not that the situation changes, but that you change. Yeah.

00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:29,040
You know, I always remember my dad saying to me, you know, CS Lewis, you wrote Narnia,

00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:37,680
he has a famous quote, like someone said to him in an interview, do you think prayer changes things

00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:47,680
because he was a question? And he replied, it changes me. Yeah. And I think that's the point

00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:51,360
that we keep coming back to. Yeah. Which if you do that in a work, whether it's prayer,

00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:58,240
whether it's meditation, whether it's yoga, whether it's exercise, like, whether it's a walk in nature,

00:37:58,240 --> 00:38:03,040
whatever that might be for you journaling, you name it, like, everybody has their thing. But whatever

00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:08,800
that is, if you take the time to check in with yourself and you align with that place and then operate

00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:13,600
from that place every day, what everyone else is doing will matter less. You will matter less, yeah.

00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:19,760
You know? Yeah. Yeah. I love that. Yeah. That's so, so, so true.

00:38:22,240 --> 00:38:32,880
I think, kind of, yeah, I mean, following on from that and I often think about the kind of balance

00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:39,520
between you mentioned stress, stress in a work environment and I often think about the balance between

00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:50,560
having, I guess, success and stress and whether you can have success and no stress. Yeah. Yeah.

00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:57,360
Because people always say, and I mean, I've seen it, the higher up you work, the bigger job title

00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:05,040
you get, the more responsibility you have and often, responsibility comes with stress. But when we are

00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:13,120
in this kind of area of business, sustainable, ethical, mindful businesses, yeah, we do have more

00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:19,840
control over how we operate and we can do things differently. But I think we've, we've asked that

00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:26,960
question a lot over the last, I don't know, how many months? Yeah. Can we get to this level

00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:37,920
without adding on more stress? Yeah. And I think we can. But I think it's hard. I think, I mean, yeah,

00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:44,560
everything's a challenge. But I've never shied away from a challenge. And I think,

00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:51,680
I think it comes back to actually the same thing. Like if you're operating from that place of,

00:39:51,680 --> 00:40:06,400
like, true purpose, yeah, and true alignment with who you are, then you will be equipped

00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:16,000
to deal with the stress. Yeah. And again, inverted comments. Because A, I think it won't feel as

00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:23,440
straight. Yeah. I think when you're doing something you believe in, the stress is less. Yeah. And then

00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:31,520
I think the stress that does exist matters less because you are aligned and doing the inner work.

00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:40,000
Yeah. So it doesn't hit you in the same way. And then I think that because whatever you believe

00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:46,080
provides for you, whether you believe in the universal source or the God or God or, you know,

00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:55,120
whatever your belief system is, when you are aligned with that creative energy and operating

00:40:55,120 --> 00:41:02,640
from that place, you are also drawing from that place. Yeah. And so if you are doing the work

00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:08,160
that you truly believe will leave the planet in a better way and will have an impact,

00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:15,520
then you will also be given the tools you need to deal with it. Yeah. I honestly believe that because

00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:21,760
I've sat with this a lot over the last few months and I've thought about like what we're doing and

00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:26,160
where we want to go and like we have all these amazing ideas of how we can help people and create

00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:32,560
a collective and create a fund for women who can't set up their own business because they don't

00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:37,200
have the money to do so and we could create this system where like we can help them to do that. And

00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:42,320
like all this incredible stuff that I am so passionate about and really really want to do. But then I

00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:48,960
think about like where we have to get to in the journey, we have to go on to get there, to be able

00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:54,960
to provide that for people. But then I just keep coming back to the place like I know we are meant

00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:59,760
to be having this impact. Yeah. Like this is why we're here. This is why we've had the experiences

00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,960
that we've had. This is why we've been on the journey we've been on. This is why we've done it

00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:08,320
together. Like we are meant to be doing this and we are meant to be helping people and we are meant

00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:16,560
to be having an impact and we can't do that unless we do grow to be in the middle. Right. Like we can't

00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:24,560
stay small to provide for our families and yet have this huge impact. And so even I've been through

00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:32,000
this so much. So like that we are going to have to like go for that. Like if that's the impact we

00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:37,760
want to have and the difference we want to make in people's lives. But because it's conscious and it's

00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:47,680
mindful and it's collective, we will be given the resources we need to be able to achieve that.

00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:53,840
Yeah. And I think as well though, I think like a lot of that the resources are within you, right?

00:42:53,840 --> 00:43:00,480
Yeah. Like it's your mindset on it and it makes sense that if it's something that you're

00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:08,080
passionate about, the time, you know, it doesn't feel like work or whatever, however you want to put

00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:16,560
it. Yeah. I think about it reminds me of my mum and dad and this kind of ongoing, it's definitely

00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:23,600
not an argument but it's a kind of life decision conversation. I love this story about your mum and dad.

00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:30,080
It's always like, yeah, there's always some kind of opportunity that my dad's chasing and then my

00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:35,520
mum's like, is it worth the stress? And like this, well you always do these things and yeah, they always do

00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:40,400
end up kind of working out and leading onto something great but my mum's like, is it worth the stress?

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And I'm always in the middle like, yeah, I don't know but it does sound like a good opportunity.

00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:51,280
I never quite side with either of them but I think it's only just occurred to me that why does it

00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:55,360
have to be one or the other? I'm like, yeah, okay, I'll go and do that opportunity. There's this

00:43:55,360 --> 00:44:01,280
piece of land that I can buy but I'm taking all the stress on or we don't, and we don't have the stress.

00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:07,920
Why can't it be, no, I'm going to do it but I'm aware that last time was really stressful.

00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:12,560
So let's set it up differently. So let's set it up differently. Let's do it and let's do it differently.

00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:18,480
Right. These are the things that happened before. How can we stop that and actually we're doing

00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:23,200
this because we want to do it. We're doing this because I think it's a great opportunity so anything

00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:30,000
that comes our way isn't as scary or as challenging as it is. Well, I have two thoughts about what you just

00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:37,440
said. One like coming right back to the very beginning, had you measure success? Yeah. If it's

00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:42,320
financial, then buying that piece of land and it being stressful but selling it and making money

00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:50,480
was worth it. If your measure of success is a stress-free life, it wasn't worth it. And therefore you failed.

00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:56,560
Well, there's more coming back to this like mainstream way of buttering it.

00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:10,480
And so that makes me again strengthen that belief that there is a stream of failures behind

00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:16,400
every successful opportunity and entrepreneur and however you want to put it because you do things

00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:22,480
and you made money but it was stressful. So next time you're like, okay, this time we can make the

00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:26,560
money but it doesn't have to be stressful because we're going to structure it differently. And so

00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:32,320
that like throws the whole failure-success thing right out of it anyway. No matter how you define

00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:38,160
either, it is all just a journey that we're meant to be on and we're all at different points in it.

00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:44,880
And then the other thing that I was going to say, which has now just flown off the tip of my tongue.

00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:55,920
Oh! Was something a lie? Oh yeah. I also think that if you're mindful and you're conscious and you're

00:45:55,920 --> 00:46:02,720
slow in all the best ways, it's like the, the, the, the truth is in the hair, right? Yeah.

00:46:02,720 --> 00:46:13,920
You are so considered about every step that you care about every element. Including your

00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:22,880
loose, the structure, the people that, you know, and then because you are doing it as you go,

00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:29,120
you're growing in a sustainable way because you are considering each element at each step.

00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:35,120
Rather than growing, bam, you're huge. Oh wait, we've got a massive cleanup job. Right.

00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:41,520
Because you're being like, no, I'm here for the growth and yes it can happen fast but I still

00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:47,360
want to consider it as I'm doing it. Yeah. And put these things in place that support that

00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:53,840
growth and the people involved, right? And the planet and the impact and all of it.

00:46:53,840 --> 00:47:00,880
So I do think that they don't have to be mutually exclusive. Yeah. I love that.

00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:08,960
I don't even know if there's anything more I can say. After that. Yeah. No, that was a good,

00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:14,400
that was good, yeah. I mean, yeah, it's, I feel like it a lot of our kind of conversations,

00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:19,040
I feel like a lot of them we've had before or their topics that we've kind of touched on a lot,

00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:23,280
but I think this is something that's relatively new to me is in

00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:34,480
not that either all stress or success or, you know, well, no stress or success. Yeah. Yeah. But,

00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:42,480
yeah, that concept of, yeah, having it, having it old, yeah, yeah. And like, you know,

00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:47,840
there will always be challenges in life because that's life. Yeah. But I feel like it lands differently

00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:54,480
when you're in a different place and you're taking that on and you're taking, yeah. And you're literally

00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:59,200
doing it. You know that you're doing it. Yeah. It's not just happening and you're, oh, I didn't,

00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:03,120
I didn't know that was going to happen or I wasn't expecting this. Yeah. You're kind of there.

00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:09,520
Like, okay, what challenges are we going to have today? And, I know, we're going to navigate

00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:15,200
them with grace and ease. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Overcome all of them and seeing it as a success in all

00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:19,680
of those little, all the little wins. You're not a failure because you had challenges. No, you were

00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:26,720
a success because you overcome, um, overcame them. Yeah. Yeah. I think, and I think that's another thing as

00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:34,480
well, I think, um, holding space for celebrating all of those little wins. I think that's something

00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:39,440
that we struggle with a lot. As in we do, we're like, yeah, we did that, but then it's always up onto

00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:45,680
the next thing straight away. Right. And actually, like, that's something that you and I have spoken about

00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:55,440
and have been very conscious about taking into Rebrandr. Yeah. Um, as it has, um, become more concrete in

00:48:55,440 --> 00:49:05,280
its definition. And I think you have to celebrate the small wins. You have to because otherwise,

00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:11,680
you're not enjoying the process by you're going back to that mentality of the outcome, which we've

00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:18,960
touched on in the previous episode. Um, and but then where's the joy? Where's the joy? Where's the joy?

00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:23,200
Where's the joy? What's the point? Is this new joy? Yeah. What's the point? Totally. And I think

00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:31,280
that you have to celebrate those wins, not just from that perspective, but also like that, whatever

00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:36,960
you believe in, whatever you tap into at the beginning of each day, if that, um,

00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:46,960
recognises your joy and it will give you more. It will give you more, yeah. You'll find more.

00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:54,560
You'll find more, yeah, totally. So yeah, celebrate yourselves, celebrate your wins, even the small things.

00:49:54,560 --> 00:50:00,240
And celebrate your friends, your other, your friend that has a small business, celebrate their wins

00:50:00,240 --> 00:50:05,120
with them and the more we can do that, like, yeah. And the more we can normalise doing it, right?

00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:10,240
If we celebrate each other and then you're like, you feel like, I don't know, be left out. I have to

00:50:10,240 --> 00:50:14,480
find something to celebrate about myself. Yeah. And then you've kind of forced to. I love that,

00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:18,800
actually. And that's something that we, I mean, we start our small business circles doing,

00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:24,560
like saying, what's the celebration for the week? Yeah. Yeah. Everybody comes with a challenge and

00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:29,040
everybody comes with a celebration. I know, I love that. I think, because sometimes I like people,

00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:34,320
I can't think of anything. And you're like, no, come on. You can celebrate something. Yeah.

00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,760
So many times I've said to people, well, what about that? Like, oh, yeah, I did that. I did that.

00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:45,280
That's amazing. Yeah. Yeah. Right. And I think, you know, actually, that's what women are really good at.

00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:51,200
You know, like, we all have those friendships where we like, oh, this just happened, or like,

00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:55,120
you know, you'd like exchange those messages or you have that catch-up call, or like,

00:50:55,120 --> 00:51:00,800
and we celebrate our friends really, naturally and really easily. Yeah. So let's bring that into

00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:09,600
business. Like, you know, we don't have to separate business and us and life, like, it's all a blend

00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:18,240
and it's all about, like, and you said earlier, I meant to say, you know, I don't see it as work.

00:51:18,240 --> 00:51:25,520
I don't see it as work. Yeah. Like, I look forward to my days. Yeah. Because it's fun. Yeah. And it feels

00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:33,760
beneficial and it feels impactful. And that's just great. Like, you know, I feel like I haven't

00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:39,120
worked for a while. Yeah. Yeah. I love that. And I think that's another misconception. People

00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:43,040
are like, oh, yeah, you can get a job that you love, but you won't make any money doing it. Like,

00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:48,960
you can work in this little area. Yeah. And yeah, you'll love it. Or you go and you work in the

00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:53,360
office that you hate with the people that you hate and you make those money, but yeah,

00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:58,560
you've got no joy in you live for the weekend kind of thing. And that, yeah, I mean, that's something

00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:08,160
I talked about all the time. Like, why? Yeah. Can't you have both? Well, I think so. Yeah. I think

00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:19,760
you have to enjoy every moment. Like, you have like the one shared thing that we all have,

00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:30,800
that is a limited resource is time. So why are we not trying to enjoy it at every moment?

00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:38,240
I think that would be a good place to kind of end today is do we have any advice for perhaps

00:52:38,240 --> 00:52:42,400
someone that maybe they are enjoying it or they love their small business, but perhaps they're not

00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:48,800
financially seeing what they want from it yet or they're not seeing the kind of business results

00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:55,920
that they want. Yeah, like, what reassurance or like, is there anything that we can say there? Yeah,

00:52:55,920 --> 00:53:02,960
I mean, I just keep coming back to the same 80% at work. Like, if you are operating from that

00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:08,720
place of alignment and essential truth and core values, like, and holding really clear to that,

00:53:08,720 --> 00:53:14,080
then unless there are some limiting beliefs and blocks that you need to work through,

00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:21,040
which is also totally possible, then it will come. But, you know, we say all the time,

00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:27,360
there are no quick fixes or no shortcuts, like in this day and age of biohacking. And, you know,

00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:35,680
there are so many ways to hack every aspect of your life and like, but to bring it back to the slow

00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:42,880
and say, like, do you want that? Like, do you want, or do you want a sustainable conscious impact?

00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:49,360
And I just think like if you are completely operating within alignment with what your sole purpose is,

00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:56,880
you can't go wrong. We say, don't we? You turn up to the gym every day. You will see results. Yes,

00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:01,200
you might not get the body you thought you were going to get. It might look different. But it will

00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:06,160
change. But it will change. Yeah. And you will get results. Yeah. So you just have to be consistent

00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:10,240
and do that. I think it's a really, yeah, a really good way of looking at it, especially in business,

00:54:10,240 --> 00:54:15,680
because I think sometimes people feel like, I'm doing so much and you're like, what are you doing,

00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:21,280
though? Like, what bits are you doing? And if you apply the same logic to go into the gym,

00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:25,360
I'm going to the gym, but I'm not seeing any difference. Well, what are you doing? Oh, you're just

00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:31,120
walking on the treadmill? Like, I'm not saying go and work really hard, but are you, are there blockages

00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:35,680
or is there something that you're holding back doing? Yeah. Because you're scared. And you think a

00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:41,280
lot of the time it does come down to fear or rejection or, yeah, I guess, fear of failing. Fear of failing.

00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:47,120
People go like, well, if I don't do it, and then I don't know, like people don't want the failure

00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:53,120
so they don't do it. But yeah, I think for me, that's definitely it. I think, like just having

00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:57,440
that confidence within yourself, and just go on and do it. On your own, with a support network.

00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:02,160
Like people who can have your back, whether it's just being an ear or whether it's can actually

00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:07,840
impacting you or mentoring you or even doing the work for you, like have people in your life

00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:15,520
that there is no one who is going to have the most success by not having fun along the way,

00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:20,960
because they're doing a load of tasks that they hate. Yeah. So the quickest way to success is to

00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:27,440
find a way to reallocate that, you know? Yeah. And that, I mean, that's what we're here for,

00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:32,160
creating those networks and that support, you know, and I really believe in the power of that.

00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:41,200
Two, me two. Well, okay, well, I think we've covered quite a lot with spoken for nearly an hour,

00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:46,960
nearly an hour on success. And I mean, I'm sure it's a topic that we will come back to again and

00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:52,000
again, because it does just come up, especially when you get into all sorts of different topics,

00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:58,000
like it kind of is the thing that you keep coming back to, and you're like, yeah, but is that one one?

00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,840
Is that my success? That's a line with what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, definitely.

00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:11,600
But yeah, I think that was a good chat. Good chat. Good chat. Okay, well, we'll see you all next time.

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